Submitted to a Candid World

The one upside to Schlafly suing is that it would ruin what little standing he has in the legal world (assuming he had any in the first place).

If he sues me, I’ll laugh all the way to his disbarment proceedings :-).

And answering an earlier question, my avatar is Bucky from Get Fuzzy just because… I don’t know. I might want to change it some day, but to what? Hmmm.

Oh, my.

I sincerely hope this idiocy becomes another black eye for creationism, and that the Academy starts giving some firm public support to Prof. Lenski. Ames, I’m thinking about writing a letter to a research journal so that more scientists are aware of the situation – perhaps we can collaborate.

i think the more interesting story is A.S. being phyllis’s youngest son and the one who works most doggedly trying to please her …

it’s like, “look at me, mommy! please pay attention to me! i know your first child — your first son — is gay, but i’m still here … PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!”

never underestimate the family psychology. i think it explains A LOT about every move A.S. has made (at least as reported by, you, ames, as i, admittedly had never heard about A.S. or conservapedia before your posts hit … though, i DID always know about phyllis’s gay son …)

James, I’d LOVE to collaborate. That’d be awesome. AND, great comments to this thread. I mentioned you all above the line :-).

And, DD, that’s what a normal person would do. Andy’s not a normal person…

I’d just like to point out this comical part of the Conservapædia Lenski talk page. These kinds of sites are always good for a laugh:

“This man is nothing but a farce

Why must we, the children of God, even acknowledge this liberal atheist (as if there is any other form of an atheist) on our glorious site? We are only feeding his overinflated ego by doing so.”

Let’s take up a collection to deliver the data, as hard copy, in raw binary.

Yeah, it’ll cost a lot, and sacrifice a forest of trees, but we’ll get to look all expectant about Schlafly’s results now that he has the data he requested.

I wait for the day when he dissolves conservapedia and comes out to say “Haha, it was all an elaborate hoax. You didn’t believe anyone could be so stupid, did you?” in a giant gotcha moment.

He does a mighty good job at pretending, though.

I would like to see Schlafly’s qualifications (e.g. biology courses he’s taken since 9th grade) listed somewhere, preferably next to Lenski’s qualifications, to point out the incredibly obvious fact that Schlafly has absolutely no place questioning any scientific article, whatsoever. I hate that no one seems to point out that our years of training as scientists seems to count for nothing!! All those years of graduate school, all those courses in biochemistry, metabolism, organic chemistry, really all we were doing is being brainwashed into becoming liberal atheists by our professors (themselves nothing more than preachers of BIG SCIENCE). Nevermind that we are curing diseases, sending spacecraft to the outer reaches of the solar system, and generally making this planet a little better place to live. Can someone point out that if you have never taken a science class, you have no place criticizing scientific results you don’t like?? If Schlafly does not like Lenski’s results, he can start by getting himself a PhD from an accredited university.

Yeah, I see you over there, you’re doing well :-). Andy’s trying FOIA now. WTF.

I’ve just posted an article on this looking at Schlafly’s real strategy, my thesis being that in attacking his science skillz (or lack thereof) we’re slightly missing the point here.

http://layscience.net/?q=node/170

Yes, I gave that link to Schlafly days ago as have others since then. He dismissed the links as a classic internet diversion tactic. Go figure: Not only doesn’t he understand the paper (never having read it), but he doesn’t even know where to go to find the relevant information.

He’s out hunting Heffalumps.

“Lenski to get access to the data from his e. coli citrate experiment: despite Lenski’s willingness to give his data to a certified biologist”

I find it interesting that there is no chat about “certified biologists” interested in the data presented by Lenski. It appears that ID and Creationists are more interested in the data than evolutionary scientists themselves.

New page to enjoy:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Flaws_in_Richard_Lenski_Study
Wherein Andy tries to expose flaws in the paper but again reveals comprehension problems.

I don’t think Schlafly has any idea at all what the data actually are, nor does he care. He’s just trying to make Lenski look bad by making it seem like he won’t “release the data”. It’s basically the “Richard Dawkins is not a professor” Situation all over again.

I’m guessing this is some sort of underhanded lawyer tactic.